Minutes of the San Diego PHRF Handicapping Board Meeting

Monday, April 12, 1999

Officers Present Name Position
Wayne Coulon Fleet Captain
Steve Secor Fleet Roster Secretary
Chris Guild Fleet Treasurer
Al Poindexter Fleet Handicapper
Dave Babcock Fleet Measurer/Scorer
Mike McGinty Fleet Secretary
Dan Nowlan Past Fleet Captain
Ken Gust Data Systems Officer
Ian Trotter Handicapper-at-Large
Area G Handicappers Name Club Boat Name
Present Brian Hull CCYC Tripz/Jinx
Pete Senft CRA Midnight Express
Chris Guild CYC Starfire
Ron Trotter CVYC Thunderbox
Larry Schmitz MBYC Phantom
PLYC
Dan Harlan SDYC Miss Ali
SGYC
Michael Roach SWYC Jezebel
Tom Smith NYCSD Defiance
Guests Present Name Club Boat Name
Bill Murray BYC PHRF, Whippet
Robert Plant ABYC, BCYC PHRF, Ballistic
Scott Tempesta SDYC Cantata
Dave Falkner Cantata
Erik Shampain SDYC, Area E & F Cantata
Jon Shampain OYC Cantata
Christopher --- CRA Cadenza, Climax
Ernie Pennell SDYC Bravura
Warren Gross MBYC Motivation, Extrteme
Bob Steen CRA Speedy Gonzalez
Guests Present Name Club Boat Name
Don Prince CRA Blue Moon
Geoff Longenecker SWYC/CRA Nemesis
Geff Fisher PLYC/CRA Scrambled
David Wood PLYC/CRA Nomad
Jim Coburn SWYC Race Committee
Lynne Eddy SWYC Race Committee/Mystic
Alec Oberschmidt SWYC Climax
Jon Dekker SGYC/CRA Air Boss
Graham Kelly SDYC

1. The Meeting was called to order at 7:05p.m. A quorum was noted. Officers and guests were introduced.

2. The minutes of the March 8, 1999 meeting were distributed and approved.

Handicapping

Old Business

  1. 72 raters: Ken Gust distributed proposed organizational criteria, policies and general guidelines. Discussion led by Al Poindexter. Minor changes as noted to clarify PHRF as managing board. Proposal to designate a minimum of 5 boats for a separate start: MSP.
    Dennis Case will be notified.
  2. CF27 Phantom: Removed engine and cut away stern. Proposal to rate Phantom the same as She's a Lady, and other similarly equipped CF27s: MSP.

New Business

  1. 50 footers - Defer to May meeting. Letters will be sent to owners. Additional Big Boats to be added to Regional review list: N/M39, Farr40, Farr44, CM1200.
  2. Rating review request: Tripp26 EFZ: Not enough data to change rating locally. Motion to table until adequate race data available: MSP.
  3. New ratings:
    Hunter 54: Topaz (s/n 46760) - Motion to remain at current rating of 51/51 in Class 4: MSP.
    Beneteau36S7: Mad Max (s/n 46694) - Current rating range from ~108 to 111. After discussion, proposed rating of 120/114 in Class 4: MSP.
    J-41: End Run (s/n 25001) - Application incomplete Defer to next meeting.
    ILC46: Extreme - New application. Defer to next meeting.
  4. Class assignments:
    Wylie30: Assigned to Class 3.
    Kirby30: Assigned to Class 3. Existing High Point data recalculated and entered for Class 3.
  5. added

Fleet Business

  1. Discussion of 3 rating system with PHRF guests Bill Murray (PHRF Fleet President) and Robert Plant (PHRF Handicap Chairman). After discussion, the concept of initiating a 3 rating system was accepted with misgivings. Proposal for Area G rep to support 3 rating system at Regional. Amendment added to keep current buoy rating intact. Motion passed. Point of order on misunderstanding of Motion. Motion restated for second vote. Did not pass.
  2. Regatta reviews:
    Cabrillo Series - 81 boats entered. Discussion on review action to be taken on winners: Bravura, Menace XX, Thunderbox, Masquerade, Jezebel.
    Gerry Browne Series: 71 boats entered. Discussion on review action to be taken on winners: Bravura, Speedy Gonzalez, Thunderbox, French Bred, Jezebel.
  3. Boats to review: Bravura (already on big boat review list) and French Bred. Motion to review next meeting: MSP. Ron Coalson to be notified.

Officers' Reports

  1. Captain:Area G configuration Roster distributed. Missing data need to be completed. Continuing problems at Regional with communication and data accuracy, e.g., Tsunami & Jacunda: application for rating changes lost-changes not made in a timely manner.
  2. Secretary:No report.
  3. Roster Secretary:No Report.
  4. Treasurer:Area G currently solvent. Financial report distributed.
  5. Handicapper:No report.
  6. Measurer/Scorer:Nothing additional.
  7. Data Systems:Nothing additional
  8. Past Captain:Presented chart with overview of various handicapping systems. Possible combination of PHRF and USSA/VPP methods, creating a "handicappers' toolbox" for "high end "regattas. San Diego will be a beta test site for new program. PHRF deltas will be calculated at no charge. Further discussion next meeting.

Old Business

  1. Independent Fleet committee report: Tom Smith distributed summary of conclusions-to-date. This report is included as an attachment to the April meeting agenda. Discussion with Robert Plant acknowledging problems. Continued review of database issues and communication problems. No further action by this committee.
  2. SoCal Championship Regatta - Agreement to rotate from Area to Area, with perhaps a "feeder" race to encourage boats into Area of Regatta. Motion to accept SoCal offer for Area G to host 2000 Ch'ship Regatta: MSP. Organizing committee: Dan Nowlan, Tom Smith, Pete Senft, Wayne Coulon, Ian Trotter.

New Business

  1. Request from Bob Steen (Speedy Gonzalez) for exemption from MIR rule, as Chris Winnard is a strong supporting member of the team. Motion for recommendation to Regional that MIR rule be suspended NOT PASSED.
  2. Roster ; Being worked on. Discussion at next meeting.
  3. Yachting Cup class breaks: Should be determined by next meeting.
  4. Race Category changes proposed by Ian Trotter. Discussion postponed to next meeting.

Meeting adjourned at 10:55 p.m.